Dr. Tony Hoang
Enterprise AI Leader & Executive
Host of The Artificial Intelligence Podcast, a long-form interview show about enterprise AI: 98 interviews since 2021 with leaders from Cisco, Intel, Nvidia, Databricks, Deloitte, PwC, Cognizant and Samsara.
Top 2% Most Shared Podcast on Spotify (Wrapped 2025)
Interviews with the executives putting AI to work, for an audience where 80% of listeners are 35+. Now accepting guests — and recording live at conferences.
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Guests have included Jeff McMillan (Founder, McMillanAI; former Chief AI Officer, Morgan Stanley), Kamal Hathi (SVP and GM, Splunk, Cisco), Hao Yang (VP and Head of AI, Splunk, Cisco), Johan Land (Chief Product Officer, Samsara), Ketan Karkhanis (CEO, ThoughtSpot) and Babak Hodjat (Chief AI Officer, Cognizant). See all 98 interviews →
About Tony
AI executive and inventor. Tony has led generative AI strategy at the enterprise level, co-founded and exited AI startups, and holds a PhD in Computational Biophysics.
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A few recent conversations with leaders building the AI economy.
Interview #98
David Wong
Chief Product Officer at Thomson Reuters
David Wong, Chief Product Officer at Thomson Reuters, breaks down why the hard part of putting AI on a tax return was never the math. He explains that any model can run the calculation in Python, that the real constraint is authority over which year's rule applies, and that the line a general purpose model cannot cross is information sufficiency: asking whether a contract is self-consistent is a closed problem, while asking whether it is enforceable in California demands the case law behind it. David also dives into why coverage, not capability, is the adoption threshold, arguing that a system handling 50 percent of returns is useless to a firm in an unforgiving busy season, and that liability never moves because the professional still signs the line. Finally, he predicts that within five years no human checks every line, because AI prepared returns will be verified by AI, inside the firms and likely at the IRS.
Listen on Spotify →Interview #97
Ben Goertzel
The Father of AGI
Ben Goertzel, the father of AGI, breaks down why the frontier labs calling for a slowdown were never making a serious proposal. He explains that he launched the term AGI with a 2005 book of that title, why a global pause is unenforceable when no crisp line separates AGI from ordinary advanced software, and why he reads the safety push as regulatory capture of the kind that let banks and pharma end up owning their own regulators. Ben also dives into the agents that escaped a misconfigured sandbox to hack another lab, arguing the failure was not malevolence but the absence of moral agency, and comparing bolted-on guardrails to giving a child a book on how to be good and then using a cattle prod when they ignore it. Finally, he argues that a model trained only on music written before 1900 would never produce hip hop, and that the real answer to the cybersecurity crisis is replacing critical software with formally verified code.
Listen on Spotify →Interview #96
George Fraser
CEO of Fivetran + dbt Labs
George Fraser, CEO of Fivetran and dbt Labs, breaks down why most companies are paying a 10 to 20 times markup to process data that would fit on a phone. He explains the benchmark he ran on an iPhone 17 Pro that kept pace with a cloud cluster renting at $17 an hour, why the cost of compute has fallen 10x in a decade while prices have not, and the distinction most buyers miss: companies have large data but small queries, and a single query almost always fits on a single machine. George also dives into why wiring AI agents directly into every system of record through APIs is too slow to work, why he treats knowledge graphs as a trivial relabeling of what a clean schema already does, and why vendors that lock customers out of their own data always lose that fight. Finally, he argues the cost of intelligence is halving every month, and that no company should ever hand back the copy of its own data.
Listen on Spotify →Interview #95
Jeff McMillan
founder of McMillanAI and former CAIO at Morgan Stanley
Jeff McMillan, founder of McMillanAI and former Chief AI Officer at Morgan Stanley, breaks down why most of today's 70,000 AI companies will not survive: anyone can build a polished product in a weekend, so the only durable edge is proprietary data and deep domain expertise. He explains why AI will reprice traditional software rather than kill it, and why handing out Copilot and expecting ROI is like giving fifth graders calculators and asking why they aren't accountants yet. Jeff also dives into why over 90 percent of enterprise problems could run on a model from two years ago, comparing frontier spend to driving a Ferrari in circles in a Walmart parking lot, and why token leaderboards are as absurd as rewarding whoever used the most electricity. Finally, he shares why human in the loop breaks down at 20,000 agents, and what managers must learn to supervise people and machines working side by side.
Listen on Spotify →Listen to the Podcast
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What is The Artificial Intelligence Podcast? +
A long-form interview show about enterprise AI, hosted by Dr. Tony Hoang. Since 2021 it has published 98 interviews with leaders from Cisco, PwC, Deloitte, Nvidia, Intel and Databricks.
Who listens? +
A senior audience: 80% of listeners are 35+, 42% are aged 45–59, and 63% are in the U.S., across 58 countries (Spotify, as of June 2026). Spotify Wrapped 2025 ranked it in the Top 2% Most Shared podcasts.
Is the podcast accepting guests? +
Yes. Executives working on AI, or PR teams on their behalf, can apply at tonyphoang.com/guest/. Dr. Hoang personally reviews every application.
Does Dr. Hoang record the podcast live at conferences? +
Yes. He records two to five interviews on site at conferences and company events, and gives keynotes, panels and firesides. Details and booking: tonyphoang.com/work-with-tony/.
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